Kirk Franklin went onto the Beats 1 Live hosted by Ebro Darden to chop it up about Franklin’s upcoming album Long Live Love. During the interview, Franklin also dropped information on his relationship with Kanye West.

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Back in 2012, West visited Franklin out of the blue. West wanted to push the production level of gospel music to a new high and even to collaborate with Franklin to produce a gospel album. However, the timing didn’t seem right.

“I didn’t want him to feel the pressure that wasn’t fair to his journey.”

The two kept their relationship growing quietly for the next four years. The two didn’t work again until West requested Franklin come work on “Ultralight Beam” on Life of Pablo.

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