Today would have been Tupac Shakur’s 45th birthday, and there will be the “All Eyez On Me” biopic coming this Fall. It also happens to be throwback Thursday. Today, we present to you an interview of Lecrae from 2012 where he spoke about Tupac’s impact on his music.

Lecrae was asked about how he got into hip-hop growing up. He shared that he would watch music videos on MTV of LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Tupac, and others. He most prominently enjoyed Pac.

“That’s one of the things I loved about Tupac, is his transparency, his openness with his wrestle,” said Lecrae. “A lot of people listen to his music and hear that duality of ‘where is God? and I need Heaven, I can do better, keep your head up.”

Lecrae then said, but in that same breath, you may hear Pac talk about being a gangster and a thug, so there are many layers to himself.

“That’s one of the things I appreciate because a lot of people wrestle with morality and where they are and what they believe in…it’s helped me to be transparent in my writing,” Lecrae shared.

Lecrae then spoke about how in his music he tries to have that openness where he can address these issues in his music while providing hope.

Looking back to even four years ago, Lecrae’s stature has raised so much more and now his message has reached much more.

Watch the video below: