Christian rapper Derek Minor spoke to the Bad Christian Podcast where he spoke about fighting with people on Twitter, cursing in music, and systematic racism.

The interview show opened up with Minor talking about getting into arguments on social media. He said fighting with people on Twitter about theology and politics is pointless, but for whatever reason, people hold him accountable for controversial topics.

“There’s no grace…that doesn’t work over Twitter,” Minor said on BCP.

In the beginning, the emcee said he used to debate everyone and then realized there was no real discussion going on.

“It winds up being both of us yelling at each other,” he admitted.

Minor said the two most popular things people “beef about” with him is topics of race and talking about Reach records. “Racial reconciliation gets me in so much trouble,” he said with a laugh before adding, “For some reason anytime someone at Reach Records does something wrong, they get at me.”

“‘Hey, get your boy Lecrae’ and I’m like, ‘Lecrae is a grown man. There’s nothing I can do even if I wanted to check him. He’s 6’7 and in the best shape of his life,” the rapper said about people who hound him about Lecrae.

He gave another example, “’Oh, Andy Mineo said about this cursing Derek. What do you think about that?’ and I’m like, ‘I don’t know, you have to ask him. I’m just over here writing raps’.”

It is important to note that Minor use to be on Reach Records, so perhaps people assume he left because he doesn’t agree with them. That is not the case at all. Minor left to form his own label.

“I guess I’m the Reach Records police, or I’m the militant black panther guy,” said Minor.

The topic of cussing came up with Minor. On the BCP, the hosts openly cuss on the show but maintain their standing as Christians. They asked Minor how he felt about that and why he doesn’t do it in his music.

The Empire rapper has never used profanity in his music so it wouldn’t make sense to do so now, he said. When asked if he cusses outside of music, he said:

“Oh yeah, I have before. You stub your toe…to me, a word is a word and it’s the context of how you use it. I don’t have a beef with that at all, but I know there are people who listen to my music that do.”

Minor said he likes to honor people who are offended by it, which in turn makes his music relatable to everyone. “I’m not solely just talking to the guys from the streets…but I’m also talking to the 32-year-old soccer mom who’s raising the next generation.”

“It depends on what lane you want to be in,” he said. “If you want to have an impact in the Christian world as it is today, it doesn’t make any sense.”

The 32-year-old said he picks and chooses the “hill I’m willing to die on” and cursing is not one of them.

The rest of the interview switched to a powerful conversation about Minor’s experiences with racism growing up. He also spoke about why he believes people are afraid to tackle the issue in the way it needs to be spoken about.

For the full conversation listen below. Interview starts at 34 minutes.