John Givez told that his upcoming album, Soul Rebel, will be drastically different from his debut, Four Seasons.

Four Seasons, I took it easy,” Givez said. “I took it real easy. This album, I’m not taking it easy.”

In Part 2 of his interview at Legacy Conference 2015, Givez shared some of what happened between the projects that inspired the change.

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