Few Christian producers have made as much noise in mainstream hip hop as Symbolyc One (S1), who is signed to Very GOOD Beats, the production arm of Kanye West’s record label GOOD Music.

At SXSW 2015, Rapzilla.com interviewed S1 about how his first hit with Kanye, “Power,” happened, as well as how he landed with his label. S1 also shared one of his funniest Kanye stories that, at least for S1, wasn’t funny in the moment.

This was Part 2 of a three-part interview with S1. Here is Part 1, in which he discusses how he navigates working in the mainstream hip-hop industry as a Christian.