Wolf and Geek of Surf Gvng spoke to Rapzilla about the hustle of an artist, and the “gives and takes” it comes with.

“If the studio is the place where you grind the hardest, you shouldn’t be an artist,” said Wolf of the duo.

He said the hardest hustle for an artist is the leg work you put out on stage and meeting people one on one.

They said you are “just sitting on music” if you are in the studio all day without doing the necessary work such as promotion and online engagement.

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The pair also explained a profound encounter they had with Pastor Chris Durso. He showed them an example of giving and taking in terms of making an impact.

“We give we take, it’s all a circle. If that’s one thing we can give as advice, give and take, don’t just take, take, take.”

Watch the interview below:

See part one here.